KM: So then it’s like the Sex and the City code. You need the fun, the planner who is uptight, the one who will always push you to go to the club when you don’t want to, someone who will lead you in a direction you might not want to go. And then I guess what Charlotte does? Whatever Charlotte does.

There is also another type of person who is too loose to travel with. And if that person is responsible for your trip, you’re doomed. If the person in charge of travel and planning is like “We’re just going to go in somewhere” and you’re a group of more than four, you’re screwed. You have no chance.

LA: And I think actually tangentially related to that is someone who doesn’t care about eating.

KM: Oh yes!

LA: You get people saying, “We’re just taking something.” And I’m like, no, but I’m starving and upset.

KM: No. It’s a person I don’t know because I don’t have any friends like that. I’ve cut off all the people who say “I’m not interested in eating.” I’m like, okay, we don’t have to be friends anymore. What should we do?

LA: I have an ex-boyfriend like that. Clean it out.

KM: What to do with someone who doesn’t like to eat? All the activities I have planned for us are walking around looking at stuff and eating. So if you don’t like to eat, we won’t have any fun.

LA: Few places are more ripe for conversation with strangers than the dinner table.

KM: When you have dinner somewhere in another city that you don’t live in and the tables are close together and you end up arguing with people you don’t know, it’s a perfect story that makes you fall in love with them.

LA: It sounds like you strike up conversations with strangers when you travel.

KM: I love to gab.

LA: How do you get people talking?

KM: I’m not good at foreign languages. I speak Spanish. That’s about it. With Spanish you could get to Italy and France, but not well. You are limited in the amount of people you can talk to in Europe. In South America you are good. If I can talk to someone in the language they speak, I want to. So I want, if I’m somewhere where someone speaks Spanish, I want to talk to them.